Comments on: /faints http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/ A Sneak Peak Into My Crazy Life, and the Technology, Books, Movies & Music I Enjoy Thu, 04 Dec 2008 03:33:02 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.5.1 By: grizzilla http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-746 grizzilla Thu, 22 Jul 2004 00:54:02 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-746 Ok, based on your most recent post I saw the below comments. Last Disappointment: Job offer Last Thing Written: Acceptance letter I am guessing this mens you have news ont eh job offer frint? Ok, based on your most recent post I saw the below comments.

Last Disappointment: Job offer
Last Thing Written: Acceptance letter

I am guessing this mens you have news ont eh job offer frint?

]]> By: yarha http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-745 yarha Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:23:40 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-745 Nail bitin'. I hate these sort of dilemmas, but yah, say you have another offer with more money, etc. In a nice way. You could also say the benefits of the lower paying are a definite draw to give 'em a sop. Portray yourself as teeterin' precariously between the two options, only topplin' over by the smell of additional cash. :p (Btw, actual money is disgustin' stuff, which I'm sure doesn't really smell too good and I'm damned sure not going to make the experiment. But then there's the things it buys..) And if it doesn't work, you can drop my name and I'll call and get all official on 'em for you. :p Eh, at least I'm a doctah! Yarha, Whose Name and $2.50-Something Just Might Buy a Cup of Coffee at Starbucks Nail bitin’. I hate these sort of dilemmas, but yah, say you have another offer with more money, etc. In a nice way. You could also say the benefits of the lower paying are a definite draw to give ‘em a sop. Portray yourself as teeterin’ precariously between the two options, only topplin’ over by the smell of additional cash. :p

(Btw, actual money is disgustin’ stuff, which I’m sure doesn’t really smell too good and I’m damned sure not going to make the experiment. But then there’s the things it buys..)

And if it doesn’t work, you can drop my name and I’ll call and get all official on ‘em for you. :p Eh, at least I’m a doctah!

Yarha, Whose Name and $2.50-Something Just Might Buy a Cup of Coffee at Starbucks

]]> By: maskedfencer http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-744 maskedfencer Tue, 20 Jul 2004 10:03:37 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-744 That's awesome, congrats. I'd just tell company 1 that you have another offer with more money, and can they meet that price. Say it nicely, tell them what it is about thier offer that you like, and what they can do to improve it. I've always done that, never worked (Always minimum wage flunkie jobs), but I never get turned down because of it. That’s awesome, congrats.

I’d just tell company 1 that you have another offer with more money, and can they meet that price. Say it nicely, tell them what it is about thier offer that you like, and what they can do to improve it.

I’ve always done that, never worked (Always minimum wage flunkie jobs), but I never get turned down because of it.

]]> By: grizzilla http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-743 grizzilla Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:55:25 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-743 Yep it is hard. If it was easy everyone would b edoing it. I am sure that a few years ago there were thousands upon thousands of people flcoking to small comanies with the thoughts that they were going to explode and also the lure of great money at an IPO and loads of options. Today well call these people unemployed. Don't get me wrong $10-20k is a load of money (~$6-11k after taxes or $250-500/ pay period if you get paid twice a month) But now weigh benefits packages, not to mention the benefit of it is is a solid offer and not something where you are waiting for someone to give you thumbs up, becasue who knows you may pass on #1 and #2 goes a separate direction and then you are left without anything. I would defeintely ask about relocation expenses, and as an exercise just sit down and make a list of all the things you would like to get froma company as compensation. Don't worry about it being too far-fetched or improbably sounding, just write it down. Think about things like 3-4 weeks of paid vacation a year, window office, health club membership, business expense account, company car, transitional housing while you look for a place of your own, ability to work from home (and also budget to get internet connection and equipment to work from home) Just brainstorm and get tham all down on paper. There are things that you can ask for other than a pay raise. Don't forget to remind them that they are getting a superstar employee with lots to offer and that a little extra on their part will go a long way. This is their opportunity to have them tell you why you should select thier company to work for. Jsut my 2¢ Yep it is hard. If it was easy everyone would b edoing it. I am sure that a few years ago there were thousands upon thousands of people flcoking to small comanies with the thoughts that they were going to explode and also the lure of great money at an IPO and loads of options. Today well call these people unemployed.

Don’t get me wrong $10-20k is a load of money (~$6-11k after taxes or $250-500/ pay period if you get paid twice a month) But now weigh benefits packages, not to mention the benefit of it is is a solid offer and not something where you are waiting for someone to give you thumbs up, becasue who knows you may pass on #1 and #2 goes a separate direction and then you are left without anything.

I would defeintely ask about relocation expenses, and as an exercise just sit down and make a list of all the things you would like to get froma company as compensation. Don’t worry about it being too far-fetched or improbably sounding, just write it down. Think about things like 3-4 weeks of paid vacation a year, window office, health club membership, business expense account, company car, transitional housing while you look for a place of your own, ability to work from home (and also budget to get internet connection and equipment to work from home) Just brainstorm and get tham all down on paper.

There are things that you can ask for other than a pay raise. Don’t forget to remind them that they are getting a superstar employee with lots to offer and that a little extra on their part will go a long way. This is their opportunity to have them tell you why you should select thier company to work for.

Jsut my 2¢

]]> By: spycedtx http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-742 spycedtx Tue, 20 Jul 2004 09:18:04 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-742 I'm so sorry I didn't meet up with you, but, life happens. I'm so happy to hear your time here was so successful!!! Were I in your shoes, I'd inquire as to how long the offer letter is good, and explain I have a few other pendings in process that should be wrapped up at the start of August. I'd further say that I am still very much interested in working for them, but I want time to evaluate all offers, based on location (it's a known that you're relocating, and not horribly familiar with traffic patterns, and where will you live??), compensation, and career growth opportunities. If they're really that excited about you working for them, and they find out you have other offers you're considering, there's a chance (not a guarantee) that they might throw more money at you. Of course, there's a chance, tho highly unlikely, that they'd renege their offer. If that happens, I'm not sure what grounds of recourse you'd have (texas is an at-will state). And, not that I"m biased, but Plano isn't a bad area to live in *wink*. I’m so sorry I didn’t meet up with you, but, life happens.
I’m so happy to hear your time here was so successful!!!

Were I in your shoes, I’d inquire as to how long the offer letter is good, and explain I have a few other pendings in process that should be wrapped up at the start of August. I’d further say that I am still very much interested in working for them, but I want time to evaluate all offers, based on location (it’s a known that you’re relocating, and not horribly familiar with traffic patterns, and where will you live??), compensation, and career growth opportunities.

If they’re really that excited about you working for them, and they find out you have other offers you’re considering, there’s a chance (not a guarantee) that they might throw more money at you. Of course, there’s a chance, tho highly unlikely, that they’d renege their offer. If that happens, I’m not sure what grounds of recourse you’d have (texas is an at-will state).

And, not that I”m biased, but Plano isn’t a bad area to live in *wink*.

]]> By: jaxia http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-741 jaxia Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:40:44 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-741 /smiling Yes, they are both in the Dallas area. Problem is, the positions are very comparable in their duties. I think I would enjoy both. Company 1 - Large, national, growing, room to advance, gay-friendly, friend works there, decent pay, start ASAP Company 2 - Small (under 20 people), I think they are about to explode and I would get extra money if/when they went public, longer drive, not sure if they are gay friend but I don't *have* to be out at work, really awesome people, friendly geeks as employees, more personal touch, $10-20k more a year than Company 1, have to wait, not a 100% sure thing If they both offered today, I would prolly pick number 2. But I don't know if I can wait. I am sooo ready to get out of here. See why this is hard? /sigh /smiling
Yes, they are both in the Dallas area.

Problem is, the positions are very comparable in their duties. I think I would enjoy both.

Company 1 - Large, national, growing, room to advance, gay-friendly, friend works there, decent pay, start ASAP
Company 2 - Small (under 20 people), I think they are about to explode and I would get extra money if/when they went public, longer drive, not sure if they are gay friend but I don’t *have* to be out at work, really awesome people, friendly geeks as employees, more personal touch, $10-20k more a year than Company 1, have to wait, not a 100% sure thing

If they both offered today, I would prolly pick number 2. But I don’t know if I can wait. I am sooo ready to get out of here.

See why this is hard? /sigh

]]> By: kemidra http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-740 kemidra Tue, 20 Jul 2004 08:30:47 +0000 http://www.youknowyouwanna.net/2004/07/20/faints/#comment-740 Oh my god. What an awesome dillema to be in! So no matter what, you have a good job waiting for you. That's wonderful! *hug* And both these are in Dallas, right? I can't believe how quickly all this happened. A week ago you were pondering whether or not to leave, and now you have 2 job offers. :D Congratulations! Yes, I know that's not what your post is really about. I'd say to go for whichever one you think you'll enjoy most as long as you can live off what you're making. I'd rather be poor and like my job then rich and hate it. Anyway, congrats again. :) I'm so happy for you. Oh my god. What an awesome dillema to be in! So no matter what, you have a good job waiting for you. That’s wonderful! *hug* And both these are in Dallas, right?

I can’t believe how quickly all this happened. A week ago you were pondering whether or not to leave, and now you have 2 job offers. :D Congratulations!

Yes, I know that’s not what your post is really about. I’d say to go for whichever one you think you’ll enjoy most as long as you can live off what you’re making. I’d rather be poor and like my job then rich and hate it.

Anyway, congrats again. :) I’m so happy for you.

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